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one
09-13-2010, 11:50 AM
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02edge2wd
09-13-2010, 01:59 PM
what a great look back! Thank you!

st_dragn_wagen
09-13-2010, 02:29 PM
if you could just box up that double dare and send it to me that would be great. or if you don't want to ship it just tell me where you live and ill come pick it up when your not home :D

Lille Buller
09-13-2010, 02:35 PM
Thats just plain wickedness right there :D

92gsr
09-13-2010, 03:31 PM
Awesome! The older mega-trucks are sweet. Much smaller than today's giants. The perfect size for our parents-aren't-home-lets-move-the-furniture-and-race events.

The Clod was definitely the better of the two. The USA-1 however, more than made up for the Double Dare's shortcomings. Of course by that time I was done with that chassis and had bought a used clod. The Bullhead brought very little to the Clodbuster other than strengthening the center of the chassis.

As kids during our "Battle of the Monster Trucks" the DD only did well in pulling, tug-o-war, and climbing. In those areas it was a match for the Clod. Probably because of the LeMans 05's superiority over the Mabuchi. Oh yeah the indoor (my friend's basement) car crush was pretty much a lock with the DD.

Good times.

one
09-13-2010, 05:05 PM
If the USA-1 had not had the fatal flaws at the chassis points where they connected to the gear boxes and the outdrives/dogbone failures, the USA-1 would have been a contender, but it still failed from several faults and the clod continues today. Still king of the hill in sales of all the old trucks and one of the only trucks not to be discontinued.

FESTER2004
09-17-2010, 01:46 PM
sweeet! Always wanted a double dare too....I have champagne taste but live on a beer budget,lol

why doesnt Kyosho ro reissues to like high rider vetter, big brute,usa 1,etc

st_dragn_wagen
09-17-2010, 03:28 PM
internet rumor is that they no longer have the molds. iv herd they're old distributer has them. iv herd they were destroyed in a fire. iv herd that they just threw them away. lots of talk with no proof. someone from the mag needs to look into this, they could probable get better answers

a reissue of those old monster trucks would rule though

one
09-18-2010, 03:54 PM
Rebuilding molds of something you already have in existence is not exactly a task, they just don't wanna do it.

st_dragn_wagen
09-18-2010, 07:18 PM
it may be easy, but it costs money. apparently they can't justify doing it right now. even with retro being popular. people have wanted a reissue of the hi-rider and double dare sense tamiya reissued the lunchbox. instead it seems to have gone in one ear and out the other

one
09-19-2010, 02:33 AM
Well Tamiya actually DID have the molds and from what I know have ALL of them in several storage buildings of huge mass from everything they have ever made. Kyosho....... not so much foresight.:D

92gsr
09-19-2010, 08:50 AM
Don't forget Kyosho released the Fazer with the old Mclaren (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=257033&highlight=kyosho+fazer) body from the late 90's. They do keep stuff, but some Japanese companies have strange policies. I believe they have moved on from the cars of their past. Think about how much money they would make if they rereleased the Optima/Javelin/Salute. Actually I think manufacturers are missing out on a serious segment of the hobby. Gold pan RC10, Traxxas Blue Eagle and Bullet, Losi JRX2 and JRXT, and so many more cars are trading used for more than they were new. It can't cost much to reissue them. Heck I just bought a few Deal's Wheels model kits and they came out before I was even born!

The Big Brute chassis should rest in peace though. It was too clumsy and unrefined. The HiRider2 was much better. It was based on the Outrage which had the original Ultima front and rear ends on a new plastic tub chassis.

bobamatic
01-29-2011, 01:14 AM
The name of this thread made me laugh. Long live the Clod.

379
01-29-2011, 04:03 AM
According to their website they still make one of their knives, and if I can financially have a say in the matter, it will be my next monster truck.


http://www.neweramodels.com/jpeg/k/kyosho_mad_force1171297260.jpg

Nitro powered, three speeds, proper live axle suspension...the only way it could be better is with reverse!

cbaker65
01-29-2011, 02:03 PM
According to their website they still make one of their knives, and if I can financially have a say in the matter, it will be my next monster truck.


http://www.neweramodels.com/jpeg/k/kyosho_mad_force1171297260.jpg

Nitro powered, three speeds, proper live axle suspension...the only way it could be better is with reverse!


Thats an awsome truck,I luv those type of axles,they
give the truck a more real look an style.
However,cant say much about Kyosho nitro,I had the
sandmaster,I liked it back in the day,I purchaced the
electric USA 1,that was the worst mistake that I ever
made,bad design on Kyoshos part in making plastic
drive axles,I over powered the truck with 12 volt ni-
cads an superooster an twisted them in half.Wont
buy kyosho again...;)

379
01-29-2011, 07:17 PM
Thats an awsome truck,I luv those type of axles,they
give the truck a more real look an style.
However,cant say much about Kyosho nitro,I had the
sandmaster,I liked it back in the day,I purchaced the
electric USA 1,that was the worst mistake that I ever
made,bad design on Kyoshos part in making plastic
drive axles,I over powered the truck with 12 volt ni-
cads an superooster an twisted them in half.Wont
buy kyosho again...;)

Every Mad Force review I've read says they're quite durable. Also, I've had some Mini-Z's, and those things survived nicely considering I went way above and beyond the call of duty regarding operating them. I ran one of my overlands with a metal body on it, and that's just the tip of the abuse iceberg :p

Also, Kyosho has been making the Mad Force for years. I remember drooling over it when I was looking to get into the hobby six years ago, and even then it wasn't exactly a fresh design.

atm92484_3
01-30-2011, 01:23 AM
I had one of the original ones and it wasn't a bad truck. It didn't handle for crap but it was fun to drive.

The main durability issues I had were the flexible arms snapping in cold weather and the steel center driveshafts bending when the arms flex. Both would have been remedied by not jumping the truck 10+ feet in the air. :D

bobamatic
02-01-2011, 01:09 AM
According to their website they still make one of their knives, and if I can financially have a say in the matter, it will be my next monster truck.


http://www.neweramodels.com/jpeg/k/kyosho_mad_force1171297260.jpg

Nitro powered, three speeds, proper live axle suspension...the only way it could be better is with reverse!
I currently have an original one. The Mad Force is a blast to drive. It is very cheap and easy to make them handle well. All you need is a turnbuckle for the steering to keep it from flexing, four more turnbuckles on the arms to limit flex, GS dual rate springs and different shock oil (can't remember weight) and your good to go. Clod tires were also a huge improvement along with Megaforce wheels (more offset). Top 3 of my favorite vehicles to drive out of my 25 vehicle collection and the only Kyosho product I own. They are very durable. I only broke two parts on it the whole time I've owned it. One of the diff tubes broke where the screws go in. I added two more screws to each side and never had the problem again. The second was a screw came loose on the three speed bracket and stripped the spur gears. Not really the trucks fault, screws come loose on nitro cars all the time. Other than that, no problems. If your thinking about one get it. You won't be disappointed. Try to find an original kit one. The plastic in those was much more durable than the RTR or any of the ones they have out now.

379
02-01-2011, 01:54 AM
I currently have an original one. The Mad Force is a blast to drive. It is very cheap and easy to make them handle well. All you need is a turnbuckle for the steering to keep it from flexing, four more turnbuckles on the arms to limit flex, GS dual rate springs and different shock oil (can't remember weight) and your good to go. Clod tires were also a huge improvement along with Megaforce wheels (more offset). Handling isn't a concern. I have an NTC3 for that.

They are very durable. I only broke two parts on it the whole time I've owned it. One of the diff tubes broke where the screws go in. I added two more screws to each side and never had the problem again. The second was a screw came loose on the three speed bracket and stripped the spur gears. Not really the trucks fault, screws come loose on nitro cars all the time. Other than that, no problems. Haha, like a monster truck should be. If it spends more time on the lift than it does running over stuff, it isn't really a monster truck.


Try to find an original kit one. The plastic in those was much more durable than the RTR or any of the ones they have out now.

I'll keep this in mind, seeing as I've been pondering a kit as of late, but Mad Forces are hard enough to find. Tower is my usual first stop for anything hobby, and they don't carry anything Kyosho for some odd reason. My LHS doesn't have any Kyosho stuff either. hell they don't have any new 1/10 or 1/8 stuff in stock, they keep it all in their warehouse.